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		<title>By: w</title>
		<link>http://www.sfcriticalmass.org/2009/10/27/a-critical-mass-blog-in-san-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for putting this site together and starting a conversation about critical mass. i rode in CM for many years but recently stopped. I found a lot of the rides monotonous --- they would go over the same route, and it was boring to never leave downtown, soma or do a dozen loops down valencia street.

 of particular concern to me has been a few people out front who are continuously directing the mass --- sometimes it&#039;s the fixie crowd, other times an individual or two with a megaphone or amplified sound. don&#039;t get me wrong, i really like having music along for the ride but think some variation in leadership would be nice --- why not take the ride out to golden gate park or the presidio for once?

i see what you&#039;re saying about meeting up afterwards, but i really prefer the mass in large groups --- i think it adds to the excitement and unpredictability. why not end up at a space that can accommodate us and is largely free of traffic at that hour --- there are certainly many, golden gate park, ocean beach, lake merced, mclaren park among others... bicycle beach bonfire?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for putting this site together and starting a conversation about critical mass. i rode in CM for many years but recently stopped. I found a lot of the rides monotonous &#8212; they would go over the same route, and it was boring to never leave downtown, soma or do a dozen loops down valencia street.</p>
<p> of particular concern to me has been a few people out front who are continuously directing the mass &#8212; sometimes it&#8217;s the fixie crowd, other times an individual or two with a megaphone or amplified sound. don&#8217;t get me wrong, i really like having music along for the ride but think some variation in leadership would be nice &#8212; why not take the ride out to golden gate park or the presidio for once?</p>
<p>i see what you&#8217;re saying about meeting up afterwards, but i really prefer the mass in large groups &#8212; i think it adds to the excitement and unpredictability. why not end up at a space that can accommodate us and is largely free of traffic at that hour &#8212; there are certainly many, golden gate park, ocean beach, lake merced, mclaren park among others&#8230; bicycle beach bonfire?</p>
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		<title>By: NorthBayBill</title>
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		<dc:creator>NorthBayBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tension of so many bike riders in a small area mingling with drivers getting off work for the weekend and eager to go home is not surprising. As a newbie, I&#039;ve enjoyed Critical Mass the times I&#039;ve ridden, but have seen overzealous behavior on both sides.  Is it only a matter of time before fistfights and gunshots erupt?  Hope not. The vast majority of bicyclists seem to recognize this as a sort of aerobic social gathering and proceed peacefully and happily. And the vast majority of drivers caught up in it seem to understand that it is wise to be patient as the procession will pass soon enough.  Maybe the more CM gets publicized, the smarter the general driving public will become. I mean, if I was trying my damndest to drive out of or around SF on that last Friday and knew about the mass, I would do everything I could to avoid it. True, there is no planned route, but the locals must know generally where it&#039;s concentrated, right?  I&#039;d steer my ass clear of the Embarcadero, Union Square, Market Street, SOMA, etc. for a couple of hours. I mean, they aren&#039;t going to ride bikes all the way to 19th and Irving, for example. 

In conclusion, the key word for both drivers and bicyclists is &#039;CHILLAX&#039;.

Profound, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tension of so many bike riders in a small area mingling with drivers getting off work for the weekend and eager to go home is not surprising. As a newbie, I&#8217;ve enjoyed Critical Mass the times I&#8217;ve ridden, but have seen overzealous behavior on both sides.  Is it only a matter of time before fistfights and gunshots erupt?  Hope not. The vast majority of bicyclists seem to recognize this as a sort of aerobic social gathering and proceed peacefully and happily. And the vast majority of drivers caught up in it seem to understand that it is wise to be patient as the procession will pass soon enough.  Maybe the more CM gets publicized, the smarter the general driving public will become. I mean, if I was trying my damndest to drive out of or around SF on that last Friday and knew about the mass, I would do everything I could to avoid it. True, there is no planned route, but the locals must know generally where it&#8217;s concentrated, right?  I&#8217;d steer my ass clear of the Embarcadero, Union Square, Market Street, SOMA, etc. for a couple of hours. I mean, they aren&#8217;t going to ride bikes all the way to 19th and Irving, for example. </p>
<p>In conclusion, the key word for both drivers and bicyclists is &#8216;CHILLAX&#8217;.</p>
<p>Profound, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Hugh:

This comment should somehow be translated/ edited.  These are notes that Jason typed up after a really interesting meeting on sunday, November 1 to discuss the problems at the east bay critical mass ride.  This seems to be similar to some of the comments here.  I think the theme is &quot;critical mass wants to (try to) transform itself and focus on what it does well, while being more organized about avoiding what it does poorly.

Jason has approved me sending these notes for posting.  

I&#039;ll send you something I wrote up later.  take care, jesse


Tonight&#039;s dinner, films and discussion about the future of our ride 
went very well. About 3 times as many people attended than came to the 
last ride, which says something! (20-30+ people throughout the 3+ 
hours.) 

A more complete summary will be posted soon. 

Key points from tonight&#039;s meeting: 

A) It&#039;s clear that the group wants the ride to grow and be inclusive. 
A straw poll showed more people prioritized BIGGER RIDE over POLITICAL 
RIDE. 

B) General agreement that the ride is implicitly political, but that 
explicit political statements alienate and turn away many people and 
harm the power, effectiveness and fun of the ride.  General agreement 
that the ride is NOT A POLITICAL PLATFORM and that such behavior is 
HIJACKING THE RIDE. 

C) Large numbers of people do not come to the ride anymore because of 
toxic burning.  Strong agreement that there should be NO BURNING, 
especially as burning petroleum products violates our essential 
healthy clean air,  and violates the ride&#039;s purity by emitting carbon, 
particularly when burning fossil fuels. 

D) General awe at the report back from Sandy about the San Jose Bike 
Party, which in 2+ years quickly grew to thousands of people each 
month.  Discussion of how a big ride like that, where people even 
bring their kids, has much broader effect and public benefit than an 
aggressively radical and risky/unsafe/narrowly represented ride. 
Large rides allow inexperienced riders to build skills, confidence, 
and grow into community, while giving everyone a fun and out time. 

E) An attempt was made at a preliminary code of conduct. A long list 
of situations/behaviors which result in exclusion of whole segments of 
the population was drafted.  At the very least, the same code that 
goes for ANY PEACE MARCH was generally agreed to hold.  The list will 
be sent in a future more complete summary. 

F) The need for political statements was very much appreciated and 
validated. Those statements can and do happen at SEPARATE EVENTS, for 
those so interested; agreement that inclusive rides should be kept 
separate from those protest events. 

G) A need for consistent sound system influence was identified. Sound 
system needs to keep a steady pace and be conscious of not splitting 
up the ride. Music can and should be collaborative. Also that there 
need to be QUIET SPACES as well as music spaces, so people can have a 
choice. If sound systems head up the ride, and perhaps bring up the 
rear, then the middle can be a comfortable talking zone and the ride 
announces its entrance and exit more effectively. 

H) Need for THEME RIDES and DESTINATIONS and more SOCIAL OPPORTUNITIES 
and at least semi-regular MEETINGS so the events are more FUNCTIONAL 

I) Ideas for new rides and/or changing existing Berkeley Mass to be 
more inclusive, to grow, included taking the ride on more small 
streets so more residents get a taste of the mass in their town. 

J) It has come to the group&#039;s attention that MOST PEOPLE DON&#039;T KNOW 
THE RIDE EXISTS. 

There&#039;s more...and there was a fun process to it all. 

Action items for the immediate future: 

I) We identified someone to pull the sound system and someone who 
wants to make a soundtrack (John and Sandy) 

II) A group will gather to collectively communicate that it is not 
okay to burn things or be aggressive on our ride 

III) A new person wants to give up her car and get involved but needs 
a bike. We are referring her to Cycles of Change unless someone writes 
me with a better idea. She&#039;s roughly medium height. Email me if you 
have a loaner/cheapo/suggestion. 

IV) Should you choose to accept.. 

  YOUR ASSIGNMENT: GET PEOPLE OUT TO THE NEW RIDE!!! 
     YOUR ASSIGNMENT: GET PEOPLE OUT TO THE NEW RIDE!!! 
         YOUR ASSIGNMENT: GET PEOPLE OUT TO THE NEW RIDE!!! 

~~~ 

Visions repeatedly included the idea of changing themes, and of the 
ongoing changes of themes and destinations getting so popular that 
people begin competing for such positions as who would pull the sound 
system, who would make the sound track, who would do the sign-up list, 
who would post flyers, who would organize each theme ride...theme ride 
ideas included 

 a. 1920&#039;s ride (possibly ending at a Great Depression party with 
skyscrapers to jump onto trampolines from) 
 b.Bats 
 c. Superhero ride 
 d. Bike-in movie with blankets and lawn chairs 
 e. Fond remembrances of times there was a really good party after the ride 
 f. etc.! Make one up, we wanna hear your ideas! 

More than once it was suggested that as part of this process we 
develop community-based plans for transforming Berkeley and the East 
Bay into a Copenhagen (a bike city).  Someone even suggested we all 
learn Danish. 

Phew, shoulda met sooner and more often!  Who said this was some kinda 
anarchist event? Yah right!   

YO! THAT&#039;S THE WORD!  The unofficial preliminary summary from your 
NON-LEADER Mista Muggsy! Have at it! 

LOVE! 

~*JasonTHEBRIDGEBIKERmeggs*~ 

p.s. Sound system still needs a corner of someone&#039;s garage, where it 
can recharge and do an easy roll-out into action. New sound systems 
are in the works. 
_______________________________________________</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Hugh:</p>
<p>This comment should somehow be translated/ edited.  These are notes that Jason typed up after a really interesting meeting on sunday, November 1 to discuss the problems at the east bay critical mass ride.  This seems to be similar to some of the comments here.  I think the theme is &#8220;critical mass wants to (try to) transform itself and focus on what it does well, while being more organized about avoiding what it does poorly.</p>
<p>Jason has approved me sending these notes for posting.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll send you something I wrote up later.  take care, jesse</p>
<p>Tonight&#8217;s dinner, films and discussion about the future of our ride<br />
went very well. About 3 times as many people attended than came to the<br />
last ride, which says something! (20-30+ people throughout the 3+<br />
hours.) </p>
<p>A more complete summary will be posted soon. </p>
<p>Key points from tonight&#8217;s meeting: </p>
<p>A) It&#8217;s clear that the group wants the ride to grow and be inclusive.<br />
A straw poll showed more people prioritized BIGGER RIDE over POLITICAL<br />
RIDE. </p>
<p>B) General agreement that the ride is implicitly political, but that<br />
explicit political statements alienate and turn away many people and<br />
harm the power, effectiveness and fun of the ride.  General agreement<br />
that the ride is NOT A POLITICAL PLATFORM and that such behavior is<br />
HIJACKING THE RIDE. </p>
<p>C) Large numbers of people do not come to the ride anymore because of<br />
toxic burning.  Strong agreement that there should be NO BURNING,<br />
especially as burning petroleum products violates our essential<br />
healthy clean air,  and violates the ride&#8217;s purity by emitting carbon,<br />
particularly when burning fossil fuels. </p>
<p>D) General awe at the report back from Sandy about the San Jose Bike<br />
Party, which in 2+ years quickly grew to thousands of people each<br />
month.  Discussion of how a big ride like that, where people even<br />
bring their kids, has much broader effect and public benefit than an<br />
aggressively radical and risky/unsafe/narrowly represented ride.<br />
Large rides allow inexperienced riders to build skills, confidence,<br />
and grow into community, while giving everyone a fun and out time. </p>
<p>E) An attempt was made at a preliminary code of conduct. A long list<br />
of situations/behaviors which result in exclusion of whole segments of<br />
the population was drafted.  At the very least, the same code that<br />
goes for ANY PEACE MARCH was generally agreed to hold.  The list will<br />
be sent in a future more complete summary. </p>
<p>F) The need for political statements was very much appreciated and<br />
validated. Those statements can and do happen at SEPARATE EVENTS, for<br />
those so interested; agreement that inclusive rides should be kept<br />
separate from those protest events. </p>
<p>G) A need for consistent sound system influence was identified. Sound<br />
system needs to keep a steady pace and be conscious of not splitting<br />
up the ride. Music can and should be collaborative. Also that there<br />
need to be QUIET SPACES as well as music spaces, so people can have a<br />
choice. If sound systems head up the ride, and perhaps bring up the<br />
rear, then the middle can be a comfortable talking zone and the ride<br />
announces its entrance and exit more effectively. </p>
<p>H) Need for THEME RIDES and DESTINATIONS and more SOCIAL OPPORTUNITIES<br />
and at least semi-regular MEETINGS so the events are more FUNCTIONAL </p>
<p>I) Ideas for new rides and/or changing existing Berkeley Mass to be<br />
more inclusive, to grow, included taking the ride on more small<br />
streets so more residents get a taste of the mass in their town. </p>
<p>J) It has come to the group&#8217;s attention that MOST PEOPLE DON&#8217;T KNOW<br />
THE RIDE EXISTS. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s more&#8230;and there was a fun process to it all. </p>
<p>Action items for the immediate future: </p>
<p>I) We identified someone to pull the sound system and someone who<br />
wants to make a soundtrack (John and Sandy) </p>
<p>II) A group will gather to collectively communicate that it is not<br />
okay to burn things or be aggressive on our ride </p>
<p>III) A new person wants to give up her car and get involved but needs<br />
a bike. We are referring her to Cycles of Change unless someone writes<br />
me with a better idea. She&#8217;s roughly medium height. Email me if you<br />
have a loaner/cheapo/suggestion. </p>
<p>IV) Should you choose to accept.. </p>
<p>  YOUR ASSIGNMENT: GET PEOPLE OUT TO THE NEW RIDE!!!<br />
     YOUR ASSIGNMENT: GET PEOPLE OUT TO THE NEW RIDE!!!<br />
         YOUR ASSIGNMENT: GET PEOPLE OUT TO THE NEW RIDE!!! </p>
<p>~~~ </p>
<p>Visions repeatedly included the idea of changing themes, and of the<br />
ongoing changes of themes and destinations getting so popular that<br />
people begin competing for such positions as who would pull the sound<br />
system, who would make the sound track, who would do the sign-up list,<br />
who would post flyers, who would organize each theme ride&#8230;theme ride<br />
ideas included </p>
<p> a. 1920&#8217;s ride (possibly ending at a Great Depression party with<br />
skyscrapers to jump onto trampolines from)<br />
 b.Bats<br />
 c. Superhero ride<br />
 d. Bike-in movie with blankets and lawn chairs<br />
 e. Fond remembrances of times there was a really good party after the ride<br />
 f. etc.! Make one up, we wanna hear your ideas! </p>
<p>More than once it was suggested that as part of this process we<br />
develop community-based plans for transforming Berkeley and the East<br />
Bay into a Copenhagen (a bike city).  Someone even suggested we all<br />
learn Danish. </p>
<p>Phew, shoulda met sooner and more often!  Who said this was some kinda<br />
anarchist event? Yah right!   </p>
<p>YO! THAT&#8217;S THE WORD!  The unofficial preliminary summary from your<br />
NON-LEADER Mista Muggsy! Have at it! </p>
<p>LOVE! </p>
<p>~*JasonTHEBRIDGEBIKERmeggs*~ </p>
<p>p.s. Sound system still needs a corner of someone&#8217;s garage, where it<br />
can recharge and do an easy roll-out into action. New sound systems<br />
are in the works.<br />
_______________________________________________</p>
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		<title>By: creekdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>creekdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Friday at 2nd and Folsom, I saw Critical Massers surround a car that attempted to go through the intersection.  This was an intersection that had been corked and had been blocked by Critical Mass for almost 30 minutes and when the number of cyclists would wane, through the use of radios I think, some cyclists would coordinate to keep the intersection blocked.  All the motorists (including buses) waited except for that one.   Anyway, they surrounded her vehicle and kept her surrounded for probably 10-15 minutes.  So, I walked over there and asked the Critical Massers if they were making a citizen&#039;s arrest of the driver and passengers, to which they said &quot;no&quot;.  I said &quot;then you cannot detain them and block them&quot;.  I asked if they needed me to call the police.  They said they had a right to hold to block the vehicle on all sides.  I thought it was intimidating behavior to surround a vehicle with bikes and do it very, very closely.  Eventually, I think one of them had a radio of some sort and said to the cyclists blocking the vehicle that they should go and the police were there shortly afterwards.

I should mention that I had one previous interaction with Critical Mass and that was as a pedestrian trying to cross Market St. and board BART.  I waited and waited for CM to fully pass but there didn&#039;t seem to be an end, so upon a green/walk signal at New Montgomery, I attempted to cross the street.  I was almost hit several times, I was glared at and circled, I should mention that I have 1 leg and I walk like I have 1 leg.  The reason I crossed Market to get to BART (BART has entrances on both sides of the street) is because there are down escalators and elevators only on that one side of the street, on the side I was on initially, all there is was a very long stairway down which is a challenge for me.

I guess my question to Critical Mass is why is your movement and your activity more important than my right to safely and without harassment, cross the street in order to board BART?

These moments have basically formed my impression of Critical Mass, which I previously thought was basically harmless and fun, but upon seeing it up close, it&#039;s just plain ugly and arrogant.

Truth is I hate the way a lot of drivers endanger pedestrians, cyclists and each other, but I don&#039;t see Critical Mass as doing anything positive about that and what I see them doing to impede pedestrians and mass transit bothers me.

I should mention that on Friday I asked a Critical Masser if they stop for pedestrians and he said, &quot;you can cross, but it will be like Frogger&quot;.  To which I said, &quot;then the answer is no&quot;.

If you participate in this, then this is something you are a part of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Friday at 2nd and Folsom, I saw Critical Massers surround a car that attempted to go through the intersection.  This was an intersection that had been corked and had been blocked by Critical Mass for almost 30 minutes and when the number of cyclists would wane, through the use of radios I think, some cyclists would coordinate to keep the intersection blocked.  All the motorists (including buses) waited except for that one.   Anyway, they surrounded her vehicle and kept her surrounded for probably 10-15 minutes.  So, I walked over there and asked the Critical Massers if they were making a citizen&#8217;s arrest of the driver and passengers, to which they said &#8220;no&#8221;.  I said &#8220;then you cannot detain them and block them&#8221;.  I asked if they needed me to call the police.  They said they had a right to hold to block the vehicle on all sides.  I thought it was intimidating behavior to surround a vehicle with bikes and do it very, very closely.  Eventually, I think one of them had a radio of some sort and said to the cyclists blocking the vehicle that they should go and the police were there shortly afterwards.</p>
<p>I should mention that I had one previous interaction with Critical Mass and that was as a pedestrian trying to cross Market St. and board BART.  I waited and waited for CM to fully pass but there didn&#8217;t seem to be an end, so upon a green/walk signal at New Montgomery, I attempted to cross the street.  I was almost hit several times, I was glared at and circled, I should mention that I have 1 leg and I walk like I have 1 leg.  The reason I crossed Market to get to BART (BART has entrances on both sides of the street) is because there are down escalators and elevators only on that one side of the street, on the side I was on initially, all there is was a very long stairway down which is a challenge for me.</p>
<p>I guess my question to Critical Mass is why is your movement and your activity more important than my right to safely and without harassment, cross the street in order to board BART?</p>
<p>These moments have basically formed my impression of Critical Mass, which I previously thought was basically harmless and fun, but upon seeing it up close, it&#8217;s just plain ugly and arrogant.</p>
<p>Truth is I hate the way a lot of drivers endanger pedestrians, cyclists and each other, but I don&#8217;t see Critical Mass as doing anything positive about that and what I see them doing to impede pedestrians and mass transit bothers me.</p>
<p>I should mention that on Friday I asked a Critical Masser if they stop for pedestrians and he said, &#8220;you can cross, but it will be like Frogger&#8221;.  To which I said, &#8220;then the answer is no&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you participate in this, then this is something you are a part of.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, Critical Mass loses far more supporters than it gains.  While waiting through fifteen or so light cycles at Harrison &amp; 3rd on Halloween, I saw Critical Mass riders force a fire truck with its siren on to a complete stop, and terrorize three middle aged women trying to cross 3rd when they had the green light.  The only thing CM proves to me is that the drivers in San Francisco have more respect for the bicyclists than the bicyclists do for anyone else.

One of the leading causes of bicycle accidents is the pervasive and totally incorrect belief among bicyclists that the traffic laws don&#039;t apply to them.  CM just reinforces that belief when it makes a practice of running red lights, failing to yield to pedestrians, and illegally obstructing traffic.  It obscures the fact that most cyclists are not arrogant spoiled brats who feel that the roads were paved just for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, Critical Mass loses far more supporters than it gains.  While waiting through fifteen or so light cycles at Harrison &amp; 3rd on Halloween, I saw Critical Mass riders force a fire truck with its siren on to a complete stop, and terrorize three middle aged women trying to cross 3rd when they had the green light.  The only thing CM proves to me is that the drivers in San Francisco have more respect for the bicyclists than the bicyclists do for anyone else.</p>
<p>One of the leading causes of bicycle accidents is the pervasive and totally incorrect belief among bicyclists that the traffic laws don&#8217;t apply to them.  CM just reinforces that belief when it makes a practice of running red lights, failing to yield to pedestrians, and illegally obstructing traffic.  It obscures the fact that most cyclists are not arrogant spoiled brats who feel that the roads were paved just for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see a Critical Mass blog so that the real issues can be addressed.

I wholeheartedly agree with John&#039;s post-- Critical Mass is counter-productive.

Hugh&#039;s reply ignore his points entirely, in addition to being condescending and erroneously claiming to have inspired &quot;bike activism.&quot;

The ride is overrun with people just having fun or just being aggressive jerks-- it is not a protest, and I think it&#039;s time to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see a Critical Mass blog so that the real issues can be addressed.</p>
<p>I wholeheartedly agree with John&#8217;s post&#8211; Critical Mass is counter-productive.</p>
<p>Hugh&#8217;s reply ignore his points entirely, in addition to being condescending and erroneously claiming to have inspired &#8220;bike activism.&#8221;</p>
<p>The ride is overrun with people just having fun or just being aggressive jerks&#8211; it is not a protest, and I think it&#8217;s time to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: hughillustration</title>
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		<dc:creator>hughillustration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breakaway --

I agree with a lot of your sentiments, and I think people like us who enjoy Critical Mass and want to take it in a more fun, less angry (and stupid) direction have to step up. That&#039;s one of the reasons we started this blog, and one of the reasons why I and others have circulated flyers for years telling people not to pick fights with motorists and to promote a friendly attitude on the ride. 

Why not bring back those &quot;thanks for waiting&quot; signs? They&#039;re easy to make! Bring them out next month!

H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breakaway &#8211;</p>
<p>I agree with a lot of your sentiments, and I think people like us who enjoy Critical Mass and want to take it in a more fun, less angry (and stupid) direction have to step up. That&#8217;s one of the reasons we started this blog, and one of the reasons why I and others have circulated flyers for years telling people not to pick fights with motorists and to promote a friendly attitude on the ride. </p>
<p>Why not bring back those &#8220;thanks for waiting&#8221; signs? They&#8217;re easy to make! Bring them out next month!</p>
<p>H.</p>
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		<title>By: Breakaway</title>
		<link>http://www.sfcriticalmass.org/2009/10/27/a-critical-mass-blog-in-san-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Breakaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it, Critical Mass is not what it used to be.  It&#039;s been taken over by a bunch of yahoos (or should I say fuck-yous) who mainly do the ride because, with hundreds of people behind or around them, they can do whatever anti-social asinine thing they want, and hardly anyone will say anything about it.  From old fashioned barging past pedestrians to the new-fangled exploding M-80s in a tunnel as riders go past.  We used to chant &quot;two wheels good, four wheels bad&quot; ironically, but some of these fools actually believe in such simplistic doctrines.  The ride has also become uncreative. People used to bring route maps, now everyone just follows the young men in the front, who are constantly yelling at each other, and practicing their authoritative tone by barking commands at everyone else. (Of course there are leaders jymdyer - there are certainly a lot of followers!) And these guys always want to do the same thing: Broadway tunnel anyone? Yawn! One guy yesterday, when we got back on Market after a really nice tour through SOMA, said &quot;finally we&#039;re back on track, what the hell were we doing out by the ballpark - there was nobody out there!&quot;  Well what I was doing was enjoying the ride. I don&#039;t need to feel like I&#039;m fucking with auto traffic in order to do that.  Then, on Van Ness, a driver hit a biker&#039;s rear wheel after trying to gun his car around a corner in order to beat the mass.  The girl fell but was fine, though her wheel was destroyed. The guy offered her a new wheel or money to replace her wheel. But instead, the bikers, wanting to make a legal issue out of it, called the cops!  Probably the guy was at fault, but the fact that these bicyclists really just wanted to punish this guy was just over the top. Last I checked, SFPD wasn&#039;t too sympathetic to CM, but then maybe times have changed, since the whole bike craze probably brings its own brand of tourists to our hyper-tourism-conscious city.  I dunno, whatever happened to the corkers with &quot;Thank You&quot; signs? What happened to &quot;Ride Slow, Say Hello?&quot; They&#039;ll probably be people here who respond by saying, &quot;hey man, why don&#039;t YOU do something about it?&quot; Well, I do, but it&#039;s hard to feel like a lone voice in a wilderness of aggressive arrogance mixed with pouty passivity.  I&#039;m not going to stop riding, but I think the change in CM&#039;s character has to do with larger social forces - maybe people feel less accountable for their actions these days? Or maybe CM has always just been about in-your-face wildness and bite-sized (bike-sized?) rebellions...if that&#039;s true then so be it, but then it would be nice if the pro-bike people stopped trying to politicize this by saying we&#039;re setting some sort of example, or exhorting bullshit like &quot;we are traffic&quot; when no other forms of &quot;traffic&quot; get to behave this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it, Critical Mass is not what it used to be.  It&#8217;s been taken over by a bunch of yahoos (or should I say fuck-yous) who mainly do the ride because, with hundreds of people behind or around them, they can do whatever anti-social asinine thing they want, and hardly anyone will say anything about it.  From old fashioned barging past pedestrians to the new-fangled exploding M-80s in a tunnel as riders go past.  We used to chant &#8220;two wheels good, four wheels bad&#8221; ironically, but some of these fools actually believe in such simplistic doctrines.  The ride has also become uncreative. People used to bring route maps, now everyone just follows the young men in the front, who are constantly yelling at each other, and practicing their authoritative tone by barking commands at everyone else. (Of course there are leaders jymdyer &#8211; there are certainly a lot of followers!) And these guys always want to do the same thing: Broadway tunnel anyone? Yawn! One guy yesterday, when we got back on Market after a really nice tour through SOMA, said &#8220;finally we&#8217;re back on track, what the hell were we doing out by the ballpark &#8211; there was nobody out there!&#8221;  Well what I was doing was enjoying the ride. I don&#8217;t need to feel like I&#8217;m fucking with auto traffic in order to do that.  Then, on Van Ness, a driver hit a biker&#8217;s rear wheel after trying to gun his car around a corner in order to beat the mass.  The girl fell but was fine, though her wheel was destroyed. The guy offered her a new wheel or money to replace her wheel. But instead, the bikers, wanting to make a legal issue out of it, called the cops!  Probably the guy was at fault, but the fact that these bicyclists really just wanted to punish this guy was just over the top. Last I checked, SFPD wasn&#8217;t too sympathetic to CM, but then maybe times have changed, since the whole bike craze probably brings its own brand of tourists to our hyper-tourism-conscious city.  I dunno, whatever happened to the corkers with &#8220;Thank You&#8221; signs? What happened to &#8220;Ride Slow, Say Hello?&#8221; They&#8217;ll probably be people here who respond by saying, &#8220;hey man, why don&#8217;t YOU do something about it?&#8221; Well, I do, but it&#8217;s hard to feel like a lone voice in a wilderness of aggressive arrogance mixed with pouty passivity.  I&#8217;m not going to stop riding, but I think the change in CM&#8217;s character has to do with larger social forces &#8211; maybe people feel less accountable for their actions these days? Or maybe CM has always just been about in-your-face wildness and bite-sized (bike-sized?) rebellions&#8230;if that&#8217;s true then so be it, but then it would be nice if the pro-bike people stopped trying to politicize this by saying we&#8217;re setting some sort of example, or exhorting bullshit like &#8220;we are traffic&#8221; when no other forms of &#8220;traffic&#8221; get to behave this way.</p>
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		<title>By: jymdyer</title>
		<link>http://www.sfcriticalmass.org/2009/10/27/a-critical-mass-blog-in-san-francisco/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>jymdyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>=v= Personally I prefer to avoid transit routes, but I don&#039;t lead the ride (nobody does). Bystanders on Market Street were totally flipping out with love for us, and I expect that&#039;s what attracted riders back there again and again. I helped shepherd a 14-Mission bus through at one point.

There was a guy dressed as a Bay Bridge Inspector, but even so the police wouldn&#039;t let us up on the bridge where we wouldn&#039;t be troubling anybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=v= Personally I prefer to avoid transit routes, but I don&#8217;t lead the ride (nobody does). Bystanders on Market Street were totally flipping out with love for us, and I expect that&#8217;s what attracted riders back there again and again. I helped shepherd a 14-Mission bus through at one point.</p>
<p>There was a guy dressed as a Bay Bridge Inspector, but even so the police wouldn&#8217;t let us up on the bridge where we wouldn&#8217;t be troubling anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Teko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw how rude some young 20 something on bicycles were today on Mission by Division... some were deliberately hindering cars from getting through, cussing and threatening them. 
It&#039;s nothing more than spoiled (too lazy to be yuppies-drop-outs, but just as annoying) on bicycles instead of beemers. So, what&#039;s the big deal? Some people have started to ride bicycles when it became trendy. And they fancy themselves as some elite beings. I&#039;ve been riding for over 10years. And trust me, riding a 2 wheeler doesn&#039;t grant anyone an excuse to be assholes. It&#039;s just a way to get around, and it smart so what. There&#039;s plenty more smart thing to learn in this life time. 

For me Critical Mass is pointless if people can be behave in a fun way. Yes, being nice! I don&#039;t have any need to fight for bicycling. Just bicycling itself is MY statement. I can get around efficiently, most often faster than cars, buses, etc. I stay fit. Yeah, it&#039;s great but I don&#039;t need to prove anything or be an ass about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw how rude some young 20 something on bicycles were today on Mission by Division&#8230; some were deliberately hindering cars from getting through, cussing and threatening them.<br />
It&#8217;s nothing more than spoiled (too lazy to be yuppies-drop-outs, but just as annoying) on bicycles instead of beemers. So, what&#8217;s the big deal? Some people have started to ride bicycles when it became trendy. And they fancy themselves as some elite beings. I&#8217;ve been riding for over 10years. And trust me, riding a 2 wheeler doesn&#8217;t grant anyone an excuse to be assholes. It&#8217;s just a way to get around, and it smart so what. There&#8217;s plenty more smart thing to learn in this life time. </p>
<p>For me Critical Mass is pointless if people can be behave in a fun way. Yes, being nice! I don&#8217;t have any need to fight for bicycling. Just bicycling itself is MY statement. I can get around efficiently, most often faster than cars, buses, etc. I stay fit. Yeah, it&#8217;s great but I don&#8217;t need to prove anything or be an ass about it.</p>
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